Marni Kinrys and The Wing Girl Method

Marni Kinrys calls herself a "wing girl." She coaches men on attraction and dating from a woman's side, and her bio on Joshua Spodek's site says she became a wing girl while watching her male friends struggle to pick up women.

Who she is

According to the bio on Joshua Spodek's podcast site, Kinrys is a self-taught advice and relationship expert with a BA in psychology from the University of Western Ontario in Canada. The same page lists media appearances including CNN, Dr. Drew, Fox News and the Los Angeles Times. It also lists two awards: "World's Best Female Pick-Up Artist" from the World PUA Summit in Hollywood and "Worlds Best Wing Girl" from the Global Pick Up Conference. Those are awards from industry events in this field, listed on a host's page, so read them as that.

Spodek, who has appeared on her podcast as a guest, says on that page that she "pioneered women coaching men in this area." That's his description. Other women who coach men include Kezia Noble and Hayley Quinn.

The Wing Girl Method

The Wing Girl Method is the name of her business and her main course. Her site, winggirlmethod.com, lists a set of programs. As of this writing it names, in the site's own terms:

The Flirt Method, a course on flirting
Become A Man Women Want, which the site says helps you understand the female mind
The Banter Guide, on how an attraction-building conversation can progress
The Approach Blueprint, a method for approaching women
What's Inside A Woman's Mind, recordings of private conversations with more than 50 women, as the site describes it

The site also offers a personal coaching call, a blog, a YouTube channel and a free advice section called "Ask Marni." Program names, prices and any guarantees change, so read the current terms on the site before you buy anything.

The podcast

Kinrys co-hosts a weekly dating podcast with Kristen Carney, who is listed as a comic and banter coach. It started as the Ask Women Podcast: Dating Advice For Men, and podcast directories now list it as How to Get the Girl. Joshua Spodek has appeared on it as a guest. Directory listings show several hundred episodes, so there is a large archive of her answering listener questions.

What she says in interviews

In a 2011 interview with Complex, Kinrys made these points, paraphrased here:

Don't chase an outcome. Going in focused on a number or a hookup puts pressure on the conversation, and it can feel forced. She said to engage with everybody, and that the way to meet women is by doing something better than meeting women.
Skip the interview. Firing question after question makes people guard themselves. She suggested sharing your own experiences and views so it feels like a real exchange. (Our piece on keeping a conversation going covers the same idea from the other direction.)
A short conversation counts. In her view, you can talk for three minutes, get a number and leave, and a later approach is easier because you already have that connection.
Confidence comes first. She called it the most important quality a man can have, and tied it to leading, relaxing and being able to ask for what you want.

For her current advice in her own words, listen to the episodes.

Her approach draws on her own experience as a woman and on her clients and listeners. It's one coach's perspective rather than a study, so test it against your own results. To see how other coaches frame the same problems, famous pickup artists is a good map of the field.

What to take from Marni Kinrys

Drop the outcome for one outing. Pick a night or a day and set the goal as "have three real conversations with anyone," men and women included. Count conversations, not numbers.
Cut your questions in half. In your next three conversations, follow every question with one thing about yourself: where you were last weekend, what you ordered and why. Notice whether the other person starts asking you things.
Practice a clean short exit. If a conversation has reached a natural end, try "I've got to get back to my friends, but I'm [your name]. Can I get your number?" and then leave on time. A short, clear conversation beats one that drags.
Ask a woman you trust for a read. Say your opener to a friend or sibling and ask what she'd notice in the first five seconds: voice, eye contact, pace. Write down two notes.
Say what you want plainly. Once this week, ask for something directly, a coffee, a number, a plan, in one sentence with no hedging. If the answer's no, thank her and go.
Try one of her podcast episodes before paying for a course. Pick an episode on a problem you actually have and take notes on one thing to try.

If she says no or walks away, that's the answer.

In Run Game, you can log each conversation as Success or Rejected with a short note, and add what you'd change in the session notes. After a week, read your own notes the way you'd read a coach's advice.